Vampires Can't Have Anything: To Love Forever

[00:00:50] Speaker A: Stream I'll never find someone quiet like you again I'll never find someone quiet like you like you. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Like Jesus river. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Than the dying roses free I don't leave you alone let me God and I go God knows I'm not at home I'll never find like you I'll never I. [00:02:34] Speaker C: Hello. [00:02:35] Speaker D: Hello there. [00:02:37] Speaker C: Welcome. You are listening to vampires. Can't have anything. [00:02:43] Speaker D: Episode four. It's episode four already. It went by so quickly. Well, welcome. You'll be listening to us for half an hour this time about all the vampire related things in contemporary visual culture. [00:03:04] Speaker C: And we are your hosts, Andrea Gontales. [00:03:07] Speaker D: And Elisa Tanaya is by. [00:03:09] Speaker C: And Monty is also here with us. [00:03:12] Speaker D: Hi, Monty. [00:03:15] Speaker C: So today we are discussing love. Not any love, the eternal love, the vampire love. And how some of our favorite vampire fictions, most of them we have talked about this season, are also based on iconic. We are having some loops here, echoes from ourselves. Yeah. How these fictions are based on these iconic relationships, triangles, obsessions. And how the vampire narrative is or is not innovative in how we understand human. As humans, we understand love. [00:04:01] Speaker D: Yeah. Not only that, I guess we'll also cover love that is hidden behind the veal of toxicity, toxic love and platonic love, but also sister love, the love that heals and the love that curses. So all kinds of love we will try to cover in half an hour. [00:04:25] Speaker C: Also, before we begin, today is a very special day because we have a hotline. We call it the bloodline. And the last 30 minutes of our show from 730. So get ready. You can call us and you can share your favorite or most toxic vampire couple. [00:04:49] Speaker D: Yeah, but you can also talk to us about maybe you have experienced a kind of love that you thought that was eternal or you think is eternal or you're experiencing that. But you can also call us if you want to just hate on your ex. We're open for everything. [00:05:08] Speaker C: And also, last but not least, if you impress us, you can win a mug designed by Ellis. [00:05:18] Speaker D: Yeah, we have designed a mug so you can drink your coffee and or blood from it. And yeah, that's what we have for today. Okay? [00:05:27] Speaker C: So please, everyone, take your notebooks out. Take your notepads out. This is the number of the hotline which we will be opening at 730 plus three one because we are in the Netherlands. Plus 3168-540-9178 I'm going to repeat it. Plus 3168-540-9178 yes, you can also find. [00:05:57] Speaker D: It in the Instagram post that we posted many times. [00:06:02] Speaker C: Many times. So we hope you're ready? Let's start. I mean, my first idea is that the vampire love stories that we know now are also very diluted by the Hollywood filter. And obviously, fiction needs conflict, and the conflict of the vampire is always the same. It's this relationship between the vampire world and the human world and what they symbolize to us on a deeper level. So this metaphor of the hidden, the desire, the night, represented by the vampire and the day, the order, the rationality, which is represented by humans. And then how does this collision unfold? Normally, we see that it unfolds through this story, this story of love, this story of seduction, this story that is somehow, I don't know, erotic between a vampire and a human many times. And actually, I mean, it's a story that it's impossible because the vampire and the human belong to two different worlds. So the vampire struggles with their own immortality while also being a predator to humans. And the human struggles with the fear of being absorbed, transformed, killed, while also desiring on another side to live eternally. I think also this whole mess that we are talking today about is obviously really influenced by the filter of romantic love. And in this story, for example, we see how, starting from Dracula, I mean, whether we like it or not, Dracula is one of the most influential fictions that has materialized into a super normative romantic love scheme. Pyramid scheme, I would say. [00:07:49] Speaker D: Yeah, we have been talking about pyramid schemes for a while now, but, yes. [00:07:54] Speaker C: So we are just familiar with this traditional idea of romantic love as the active force that saves everyone and everything. This is the magical currency that justifies any action. And it also comes from nowhere and is somehow, like, mystical. And this kind of chivalrose in a way. Like, there's this men on a horse. [00:08:16] Speaker D: By saving the demsel in distress. [00:08:19] Speaker C: And, I mean, we don't have time in this chapter to discuss why this idea of love is so toxic. But, I mean, everyone knows what love we talk about. Like, love, Snow white love, like twilight, which I cannot believe that we are talking about again. [00:08:34] Speaker D: We will talk about it forever, Andrea. You have to accept it. Accept it. [00:08:40] Speaker C: I'm just. [00:08:44] Speaker D: Mean, I. In a way, we will cover a little bit of that toxic love. I guess I will. I guess I was a little bit depressed, and I just ended up on Instagram for too long. So I'm going to go over things that are not necessarily involving vampires but are very vampiric in their respective contexts. Because when I ended up on Instagram, spiraling down into the rabbit hole of red pill and hashtag Andrew Tate and all of that just I ended up watching hours and hours of videos about how this world is a simulation and that we should all study the power of attraction and we should have started prepping five years ago for the big boom. And supposedly Satan runs wild and has soul contracts with all the celebrities we love and Sam Smith and Doja cat are really not well and cabal is going to eat our babies and Andrew Tate is a God and women are lesser beings. And this woman named Pearl is dissing only fans girls, and this boy in his room is scaling women from one to ten when he himself is obviously a minus one. All of this started with one Andrew Tate video that I watched and it was over in no time. So my suggestions offered by Instagram were like one of the vampires many skills hypnotizing me to watch more and more. So I went from one video to the other, and I'm sure I mostly watched older stuff from three months ago, but that doesn't mean it's still being watched. And it's not only watched by me, but also what I like to call the impressionable Tate boys. And all these men with their podcast shows, my God, like collectively denying the existence of love and condemning people with uteruses, but also really bitching about how men nowadays are simping by going to therapy and talking about their emotions and oh, that's so pathetic. And at the same time they're enraging over women who make their own know like, oh, she doesn't know the capital of Brazil. Stone her to is a this is a quote from a guy who intensely stares into the camera, having learned from Andrew Tate to speak in a way that comes across as if he's this super smart boy and the background is lit with blue lead. Know there's a mattress on the floor, heaps of clothes all over the place. Like sure, my guy, let's all pretend as if it is a necessity to know the capital of Brazil. The fact that he brings it up doesn't actually mean all the girlies are dumb, although that is what he is aiming at. But he himself, his character or Persona is proving we have a shitty educational system that does not prioritize critical pedagogical ways of healthy learning. Anyway, yeah, back to vampire vibes. These people, I do not know, have sucked on my life source like a proper energy vampire would, no joke. So the problem is that it was addictive. I kept on going back because of disbelief mostly, but also there was some kind of like an entertaining kind of delicious, nasty thing to hate on them and this behavior really reminds me of how vampires lure their victims in, as if their bite has this addictive poison in it, infecting the victim with a desire and a need to return to their dark layer. In this case, the neon blue lit room filled with trash. The toxic x you keep going back to kind of. Right? So, like always, the rabbit hole is deep and ever expanding. And I started to think about how these tate boys are now the contemporary representations of the men holding torches and stakes. Although men still hold torches and stakes, we have not grown out of that. So, yeah, ready to burn the witch or even drive a stake through her heart. And the woman is monstrous in their eyes, deceiving and dumb. Pathetic, even. And she doesn't deserve to have the thought of equality in terms of sexual freedom and getting paid for it. Cannot show her body the way that she wants. She's deceitful by changing her appearance for the better. She's catfishing, so to speak, and lying and using makeup or revealing clothes to alter her appearance. And how dare she seduce and tempt. So she's ridiculed and harassed and attacked in all kinds of forms. And these men teach others to be manipulators. They're learning these skills from their masters, the millionaire energy vamps. But the thing is, Andre, you already mentioned Dracula. These guys could never be like Dracula, not even in their wildest dreams. Because although the Tate boys fit the description of an evil vampire, of an evil creature, demonic, manipulative, and literally deadly, they could never fit the description of the vampires we come to experience and even know the mill vampires I know are blade, Spike, angel, Eric and Bill and Dracula. These are all very passionate undead men. And although they seem demonic, they seem evil. But when it comes down to love, they love hard and they love hardcore, and they're passionate and they do have emotions and they're really not afraid to share it. That's almost their weakness that they are. So, yeah, what's the right word? Just so. Let's just keep it up. Passionate. Yeah. So these are, these. These are men who experience their feelings much more than us. And they are beyond human. They are not part of our worlds. The earthly rules don't apply to them. And I guess that's the same for their emotions. And I think that is kind of their actual curse, that they feel things much more than us. And our favorite vampires might be a little self involved, but their lives pass. These mere human, aka male, insecurities and a life of eternity makes them appreciate the complexities of life more. It seems love and passion and loss, pain, it's all in very extreme ways, and it's the only way it can be experienced by them. So, yeah, again, these Tate boys could never be Dracula because Dracula is a lover, and he's undead because of love. And he loves so hard that he's tormented by the lust of his beloved every time he blinks his eyes. And I think here we can question also the purpose of a soul. A soul, in this sense, in the buffy and angel verse, is very much attached to the ability of goodness. So having a soul means you should be, by default, a good person or creature. But we also know from Buffy and angel verse that vampires are soulless beings, but we do see that they can love. So there's something there that I am still trying to understand or grasp what that is, because how can one love without a soul? And how can spike be with Drasilla? And how was angel together with Darla for so many years? And how the hell did Spike, one morning after a sexy dream about Buffy, realize he was in love with her? And I think this is where the obsession comes in. Does a vampire actually. Right, because this is very typical because I speak against myself here, and that happened in two minutes. [00:16:42] Speaker B: But. [00:16:43] Speaker D: But maybe what if a vampire actually does not love? It just is obsessed? Like Edward says to Bella, you are my own personal heroine. That's insane. That is a really intense thing to say. Sounds like law of bumming also. And we know that that is toxic, so. Yeah, that doesn't really sound like love. And it's very. Yeah. So now I'm going back to what I said before. Maybe Edward is like a lied version of a Tate boy, obsessive wanting and needing and wanting to own. Do you know what I mean? So there's something that. I don't know. There's a gray field, a gray area, and I'm kind of stuck there. [00:17:30] Speaker C: I think it's also mostly because many of the fictions that we know are really centered from the perspective of the vampire sometimes, and not of the vampire, but maybe they are from the perspective of those who fear the vampire. But also the vampire is this male, tortured character. And I think that is really. I mean, it comes to its most toxic extent in fictions like Twilight. But coming to Dracula, I mean, Dracula is this older, tortured man who becomes undead because of this rapunzel like love for this princess that then ends him being cursed forever. And then he becomes into. He sees this young woman that reminds him of his first love, who he will always await for. And then there's this bizarre love triangle between the woman, her husband, and the vampire. And then he literally stalks her and vampirize her. But she and her saviors, aka her husband, Van Helsing and friends. [00:18:41] Speaker D: I like Van Helsing and associates. That's like a proper business. [00:18:46] Speaker C: Van Helsing, associates, they save her from this evil. And there's this story. Older man, younger woman, eternal vampire, mortal, human, repeats over and over with different outcomes. Sometimes she willingly dives into vampirism, or maybe she doesn't dive into it, but she ends up becoming a vampire. For example, twilight or the vampire diaries, or Dracula is a car or queen. [00:19:13] Speaker D: Of the damned or queen of the damned. [00:19:17] Speaker C: So there are so many unexplored opportunities, from my point of view, within this concept of vampire love that we are basically losing because of being so obsessed with Dracula, and we haven't been able to kill Dracula, and we are still living in this toxic, masculinity Dracula era. The first one is. Yeah, just to embody the conflict between the human and vampire world in a love story. This defeats the purpose of this chapter. But why do we have to rely on epic love to address the conflict? But also, why is it almost always a heteronormative love story? For example, let's go back to Carmila, this gothic novel by Sheridan Lefano. Shout out murderers and gay. [00:20:05] Speaker D: Murderers and gay. That's the next mug. [00:20:09] Speaker C: Yeah, murderers and gay, where Carmila, who is eventually revealed as a vampire, she's into Laura, who's this young bourgeois woman. And until once again, Laura's father discovers that Carmila is a vampire and kills her. They are kind of vibing together. They have something. Obviously, we have discussed how Carmila represents everything that is forbidden and desired at the same time. In this 1872, but also today, the eroticism embodied by a woman that defies christian morality. And she can only do that by being undead. But I wonder what would have happened if Laura had just embraced vampirism. Like screw my father, screw my life, my posh life in this field. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just going out there to hunt in the night with my friend. I mean, let's be honest, I think Laura was into it. Carmila was a creature of the night, but Laura wasn't lobotomized. [00:21:14] Speaker D: She wanted her as one who wasn't lobotomized. [00:21:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but not only we kill Carmila, but also we forget about that story, and then we make Dracula, which was released later. We make Dracula, like the main thing. But, yeah, at some point we need to move beyond it. And let's mention Nadia by alenereda that we have mentioned a lot. First positive point, it starts killing Dracula plus one. [00:21:44] Speaker D: Yeah. It immediately gets rid of that vampiric patriarchy situation. Kill the dad. [00:21:52] Speaker C: Okay, bye. And then. [00:21:54] Speaker D: Wait, we are throwing out quotes that are out of context. Very weird. Sorry for that. [00:22:01] Speaker C: But listen back to our previous episode. Yeah, and, yeah, then also it explores further this relationship, like the conflicted relationship between Nadia the vampire and Lucy the human, which is also kind of a reference to this romantic connection between Lucy and Dracula. And then, I mean, Lucy, she moves away in the end from vampirism, and it's saved by a really lunatic version of Van Helsing. But I think Lucy has more agency and she has more depth than Mina, for example, like the character. [00:22:41] Speaker D: Yeah. I like how Lucy is a little bit elusive and she's dissociating a lot, which I like. She's really questioning herself and this obsession, and she's hating it and loving it, and she's accepting both. And that is kind of interesting because it's so much more human, actually. And it's interesting when you said Carmilla obviously represents sort of a female freedom and to not give a fuck and do whatever you want, and she wanted a friend to share that with, but it all ended up badly. And then Dracula came along. So, yeah, I guess going back to the soulless body, as I said in the Buffy verse, the vampire is a human body possessed by a demon. Actually, a dead human body possessed by a demon. And things that make a demon a demon are traits such as vanity and pride and such emotions like obsession. And having the desire to own someone can be linked to that evilness inside. We see, for example, in Buffy, angel as evil, called angelic. He doesn't just kill, he tortures. He really obsesses over someone. And that is the demon inside of him that does that. But at the same time, as a human, he wasn't really a good person either. So bad plus, bad made worse. And thinking about this, more about the Tate boys. I'm sorry to go back there again. So you know what was absolutely terrifying. So I'm rewatching angel, and there's this one episode where angel, as we said, the vampire with his soul, has to go to hell to free an evil person. And this person is so evil that he has his own little chamber of constant fire that he should have burned in for eternity. Instead, angel helps him escape in order to save his own friend, who he loves. So for love, he does this really evil thing. But yeah, of course something bad is going to happen because he saved something terrible. And so they find out that this man he saved is a toxic tate bro, who by touching men, brings this, and I'm quoting from the show, okay. An ancient, like, primal feeling to the surface that turns these men that are touched by this evil creature into raping murderers of women. And this is a show from the early two thousand s. Okay. And the show, angel is kind of known to exaggerate the problems we have in our society because angel is really representing an angel in this situation where he helps kind of people who need help from evil. But yeah, literally, what the fuck? So we see this same toxic male vibe everywhere. Doesn't matter where we are in time, it just keep. It's always there. And we also see it in Sabrina, the teenage witch on Netflix, where the high priest, out of fear for the power of women, keeps them small and banishes them from performing dark spells. And he does a lot more horrible things. But we just really don't have time to go over it. But yeah, it's scary. Love seems to be very scary. And because it's scary, I think this kind of shit happens. And sorry for making it really, really cringe now, but it's the truth. So love is apparently such a scary topic or thing or theme that it turns these silly men into evil creatures. And it's like they have to be undead in order to kind of understand the complexity of love. Yeah, I don't know. [00:26:51] Speaker C: Well, now, in two minutes we will open the line for all of our listeners. If you're listening, you're very welcome to call from 730 to our bloodline plus 3168-540-9178 and in the meantime, we'll just continue. We'll just continue. Yeah, I was thinking the main issue with this. I think it's like how these roles are portrayed in these narratives. For example, I was reading a section of Gilberto Perez book the other day, the material ghost, and he was talking about this film, Nosferatu. Like this film from 1922, which is an official version of Dracula in which Dracula is called Count Orlock. Lol. The name, it's great. The naming could be better. But yeah, I mean, apparently this didn't really sit well with Bram Stoker's widow. [00:28:00] Speaker D: It did not. [00:28:02] Speaker C: Fun fact, they got sued and court ruling ordered like that, all the copies of the film would be destroyed. But then some prints survived and then the film came to be this influential masterpiece of cinema. Yeah, I didn't really pay so much attention to the film. But what is interesting is how this woman, Helen, finds out at some point that the vampire is the cause of this plague, and only a woman can break his frightful spell. A woman with a pure heart who will offer her blood freely to Nosferatu and will keep the vampire by her side until after the cock has crowd. So this is like literal code. Basically, she has to kind of give herself to the vampire. So the vampire sucks her blood, and then the vampire dies while sucking her blood. And then she is like, okay, I'm going to just save the world. And then she gives her life for this. [00:29:04] Speaker D: Yes. Sacrifice. [00:29:06] Speaker C: It's giving Penny dreadful. [00:29:09] Speaker D: It's giving Penny dreadful for sure. But it's also giving a little bit. Dracula from Netflix. [00:29:15] Speaker C: Yeah, I was thinking of that. [00:29:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:29:18] Speaker C: Like the Van Helsing Dracula. Yeah, conundrum. How do you say that? Yeah, conundrum. [00:29:27] Speaker D: Is it a. [00:29:32] Speaker C: They? But what I like about Van Helsing is that it gives a little bit more room for these roles to be deeply explored. It's not like this, obviously. It's like this hot, tortured man. But then I think both Van Helsing and Dracula have more agency. They kind of bring equal things to the table. Let's say Netflix. Also really worse by mass media, kind of, you know, in the end, I feel like they both give their lives to each other in a way. [00:30:06] Speaker D: They're both giving. [00:30:07] Speaker C: Yeah, no, or yeah, no. [00:30:10] Speaker D: I agree with you with Penny dreadful. The last time that I've watched it, it was in. Sorry, Monty was looking at me and I thought we were being called. [00:30:27] Speaker C: No, please call us now. We are open, by the way, I'm going to repeat the number plus 3168-540-9178 you can win a mug, and it's. [00:30:42] Speaker D: A great, great mug. [00:30:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I would like to have one. So maybe even call myself my own show. [00:30:49] Speaker D: Yeah, Andrea will maybe leave the room and call from the bathroom or something. [00:30:54] Speaker C: So while we wait for you to. Don't be shy, just call. It's not also, you don't have to tell us a story, you just have to comment. You can say if you're like team Spike, team angel. What's your favorite vampire movie? What's your favorite vampire story? Love story. Were you in love with a vampire? Are you a vampire? [00:31:14] Speaker D: Yeah. Are you a vampire? Tell us. [00:31:17] Speaker C: Yeah, just call. We can play a song for you. [00:31:22] Speaker D: Also, if you want to convince Andrea that Twilight is great, you're more than welcome. We are open. [00:31:28] Speaker C: I'm going to repeat the number one more time. Plus 3168-540-9178 so, yeah, while we wait for the calls. Penny the red fool. [00:31:44] Speaker D: Amazing show. You show. It's a great show. Yeah. I mean, I really love how it just takes all these gothic stories and tales and it mixes really well together. And the leading character is Vanessa eyes. Gorgeous. I'm in love. [00:32:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker D: Oh, my. She's a witch. She's like a channel. [00:32:18] Speaker C: She's a channel. [00:32:19] Speaker D: That's what it is. A channel to the other side to what's behind the veal. She is the veal, actually. And it's kind of funny because angel has the same problem where he cannot experience ultimate joy. Because when that happens, his soul leaves his body. And then, jealous, the evil vampire returns. And kind of the same happens to Eva Green and Penny dreadful where when she really lets herself. [00:32:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:55] Speaker D: She becomes this evil temptress of the. [00:33:02] Speaker C: Really, like, I really like how this show also tackles this idea or, like, the historic idea of how this hysterical woman or the possessed woman who is just actually a traumatized woman who has been historically medicalized and silenced. We really see, like, she goes through at some point, we really don't know if all this possession story is true or she's actually kind of Luna, like, having hallucinations. But, well, in the end, I mean, in the fiction, she's possessed or, like, wanting to be possessed. No, the demon. [00:33:44] Speaker D: She doesn't want to be possessed. [00:33:45] Speaker C: Yeah, she doesn't want to be possessed. The demon. Like Lucifer. [00:33:50] Speaker D: Yes. [00:33:50] Speaker C: Demon and Dracula, who are brothers. [00:33:53] Speaker D: Yeah. Which I think is so interesting in Penny dreadful. Dracula and Lucifer are their brothers. And they're fighting for the same woman. [00:34:02] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like a bit giving David Bilbala Mordon. But, like, two men, one woman vibes. [00:34:11] Speaker D: Yeah, the triangle. Really. [00:34:14] Speaker C: Triangle vibes. She's fighting against that. But also, as you said, she's this veil. She's this communication channel between the two worlds. So I think she's a deeper character than many of the womans that we like or like the female characters that we have seen. That has more like light and shadow in a way. And I think the evolution of her relationship to her role is also kind of rich. And then. Yeah, in the end, Dracula is this natural history museum guy. [00:34:50] Speaker D: Yeah. I thought he was the most boring character. And then he turns out to be Dracula. [00:34:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:59] Speaker D: Mind was blown. I was so upset. Yeah, I was really upset because you have kind of an idea of what Dracula could look like. And this was not this guy. It was not this guy. But then again, I was also not fan of Dorian Gray in Penny dreadful. [00:35:16] Speaker C: I am such a fan of Dorian Gray in Penny. [00:35:18] Speaker D: I know that you are. I mean, he just looks like a can't. I'm sorry. I can totally not. I don't get. [00:35:29] Speaker C: We have a. We have a discrepancy here also. You can call us to solve this problem. You have a good reason why Dorian Gray impenetrates? Yes. Dorian Gray, impenetrateful. No. So, yeah, I mean, in the end, she gives herself into. She embraces evil. And it's amazing. Like, when she embraces evil, there's an apocalypse. I mean, it's awful because it's an apocalypse and there's rats and vampires crawling all over London. And it's, like, totally apotheosic, but it's also amazing. [00:36:05] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:36:06] Speaker C: It's like the plague. [00:36:07] Speaker D: The plague. [00:36:08] Speaker C: And she's this true evil queen. Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous evil queen. And she's, like, owning it. And she also gives herself to death. [00:36:21] Speaker D: To end the apocalypse. [00:36:24] Speaker C: So she gets the apocalypse, she goes through it, and then she dies. [00:36:30] Speaker D: Yeah. Sacrifices again, I'm trying to think of other sacrifices, but from a male mean angel. Does angel sacrifice himself? [00:36:46] Speaker C: No, Buffy kills him. [00:36:47] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:36:48] Speaker C: Yeah. But he doesn't resist. I don't know. [00:36:51] Speaker D: How would he resist? He's like, oh, my God, Buffy, let me hug you. And then he gets stabbed and then sucked into the hell dimension. [00:36:59] Speaker C: Sucked into this. [00:37:00] Speaker D: Yeah. And then he does this. His right arm. He raises his right arm and is like, why? And then he gets sucked in. Yeah. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Very bad. Also very bad special effects now that. [00:37:14] Speaker D: We watch again these years. But it's so great. I love it. It makes it so much better because we're watching it now and I'm tired of all of these special effects that seem so realistic. Just give me the raw stuff. Give me the stuff that is just kind of, like, still a little bit of green screen around someone's hair. I love that. I love it. But I'm thinking, because I'm thinking about these guys with the tortures, burning witches with their chant. Witch. Witch. You are a witch. [00:37:57] Speaker C: Also very penny dreadful. We have a whole season about her. [00:38:03] Speaker D: Witch. Yeah. So good. [00:38:07] Speaker C: Amazing. [00:38:08] Speaker D: Patty Lapone as sort of the big witch. Oh, my good. So the movie that comes to mind also not. I'm really not bringing up vampire references today. Okay. But there is something vampiric in it, so that's why I'm just going out of the box. But the movie practical magic comes to mind, which is a great film. Totally underrated. Definitely go watch it if you haven't seen it before. Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock are sisters who are grieving their mother's death of a broken heart because their ancestor had cursed their entire bloodline, aka Callis, on the bloodline when she was knocked up and abandoned by her lover. And Nicole Kidman, Sandra Bullock, they're small kids and their aunts are now their guardians. That's what you say, right? So their ancestor Maria, what she does is she curses every woman from her bloodline to never fall in love. So if they do fall in love, the men that they fell in love with will die. So digging a bit deeper into this, we watch Nicole Kidman as the red headed vixen. Totally a Lilith like character. She even has a snake that actually represents Lilith sort of on her boob or on her arm, something like this. Oh my God, we have a caller. [00:39:46] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:39:47] Speaker D: Holy shit. Okay, let's accept. Hello? [00:39:58] Speaker B: Hello? [00:39:59] Speaker D: Hi. [00:40:02] Speaker B: Is this, is this the vampire radio? [00:40:06] Speaker D: This is the vampire radio. Can you hear us? [00:40:10] Speaker B: Are you live? [00:40:11] Speaker D: Yes, we are live. [00:40:13] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:40:16] Speaker D: Welcome. Do you want to be anonymous or can we get your name? [00:40:23] Speaker B: My name is Carmen. Hey, Carmen, I was actually wondering what I have to do to win that coffee mug that you were promoting. [00:40:34] Speaker D: The coffee mug? Well, you can tell us about maybe your favorite vampire couple, or maybe you can tell us about a love that you felt was vampiric, or maybe you feel an eternal love for something. So basically anything vampiric within the company. Oh, shit. Okay, well, take your know. [00:41:05] Speaker B: I know buffy the vampire and I know Twilight. Those are great things. Oh, I know Dracula also. [00:41:20] Speaker D: Yes, Dracula. A good one. [00:41:23] Speaker B: I know Swinton. I know. [00:41:35] Speaker D: I mean, okay, so you don't necessarily need to know all of them, but. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Basically. [00:41:46] Speaker D: What do you think of a vampire in love? Do you think a vampire can actually love? Maybe that's a good question for you. [00:41:55] Speaker B: I think a vampire can love. I just think they're probably struggling a lot to just merge their love experience to other human beings because the fact that they're just here forever must make it very painful for them to see all their loved ones just leave earth before they do. [00:42:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker B: I don't mean love in general is quite existential for everyone, but I think for vampires it's even more existential and it's more painful, I would say, than beautiful, but there's beauty in that also, so I don't. [00:42:43] Speaker D: Yeah, that's. I think that's a great answer. [00:42:46] Speaker C: I loved. [00:42:51] Speaker D: Should. [00:42:51] Speaker C: I think we should include her on the lottery. [00:42:53] Speaker D: We will include you on the lottery, Carmen? [00:42:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:42:57] Speaker D: With the answer? Yes. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for calling. This was great. [00:43:08] Speaker B: I hope you don't get any better answers than mine. [00:43:12] Speaker D: I mean, yours was amazing. [00:43:15] Speaker B: Come to Trixie on Friday. [00:43:18] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:43:18] Speaker C: Carmen is presenting her film on Friday at seven in Trixie the Hague. You should all go. This is a really good movie. I already watched it. [00:43:27] Speaker D: Carmen, is this your new film? [00:43:30] Speaker B: Oh, and Edif is in the film also. [00:43:32] Speaker D: Oh my God, I am in the film. I guess I must go then. [00:43:36] Speaker C: At six in Trixie this Friday. We wait you there. The big screen. The book of Elif. [00:43:47] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm a lawyer and that was literally my plan b in life. Feels good. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Everything makes sense. See you there. [00:44:01] Speaker C: Vampires. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Oh, evo is here. [00:44:04] Speaker C: Hi, evo. [00:44:06] Speaker B: Okay, I have to go. [00:44:07] Speaker C: Bye bye. [00:44:08] Speaker D: Bye. Thanks for calling. Bye bye. Ciao. [00:44:12] Speaker C: Okay, so plus 3168-540-9178 the number of our bloodline. We are waiting for you like the bar is high. This was a good answer. [00:44:25] Speaker D: This was a good answer. Yeah, it's true. We have never covered that actually that the vampire know the reason Buffy and Angel would not make sense. It is because like you said, they're from different worlds. [00:44:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Also I think this speaks about that love. I think if we understand it in a slightly less romantic and idealistic way, or at least for me, love is contingent. It is contingent. It's really influenced by the possibilities and the circumstances of two beings or three beings or whatever amount of beings at a specific time and a moment. So forever in human love is always. Yeah. It always has an end in a way. Like it's always going to end because human life is like finite. And there's this dynamic of growing old and evolving. The success of love lies in also surviving in some way that evolution and being a companion to each other. And what happens when that forever is suspended. Yeah. For example, as Carmen said, I know Tila Swindon. I think she knows Tila Swindon. From only lovers left alive by Jim Jarmus. I like that. It explores this dynamic in a vampire couple who are like together forever. [00:45:58] Speaker D: Hey, we have a phone call and we're having echoes. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, there we go. Hello, this is the bloodline. Thank you for calling. Would you like to stay anonymous or can we get your name? [00:46:21] Speaker B: I would like to remain anonymous. [00:46:23] Speaker D: Okay. Anonymous it is. Hello, anonymous. How are you today? [00:46:28] Speaker B: How are you doing today? I'm very good. [00:46:30] Speaker D: Good. As are we. We're very excited. So, anonymous, do you have something vampiric to tell us? [00:46:40] Speaker B: Actually, I do tell us? Well, I always knew that I had a thing for biting, especially in intimacy. It happens that sometimes when I get too excited, in the kissing stages, I tend to also bite. [00:47:07] Speaker D: You're a biter? [00:47:09] Speaker B: I am a biter. But I always thought this was part of a romantic expression, some sort of excitement, arousal attitude. But one day, something quite particular happened, and this is the reason why I'm calling today. Perhaps I can get diagnosed from you blood experts. [00:47:35] Speaker D: Okay. [00:47:36] Speaker B: So I go to bed with my partner, as I was doing for years at this one time. We go to bed, everything seemed normal. And in the middle of the night, I woke up with my partner pushing me out of the bed in a very violent way. So this violent attitude woke me up. This is true story. He woke me up with this aggressive push. So I look at him and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And he's like, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm like, what? I'm sleeping. And he's like, no, you mad woman. You just beat my neck super hard. [00:48:40] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I didn't realize. This is in the middle of the night also. So everything, the conversation that we both are having is fully unconscious, et cetera. What then we fall back to sleep. Fine. In the morning, I woke up, so does he. And I said to him, hey, you pushed me off the bed yesterday night. He comes back to me and said, yeah, and you beat my neck. Look what you've done. He shows me his neck and he has my entire jaw completely delineated. Like, you know, when you bite so hard that you leave all the feet, like the blood. He had the drawing of my teeth in blood shape, all in his neck. Weird. [00:49:41] Speaker D: Well, anonymous, that is a lot. I think I have a shouting. It looks like Andrea has a diagnosis. [00:49:53] Speaker C: You're a day walker. You're a vampire. [00:49:56] Speaker B: A day walker. [00:49:57] Speaker C: Yeah, you're a. Yeah, but you can walk in the day. You're blade. Your blade, basically. Yeah, that's my diagnosis. Congratulations. I think you're one of the most rare creatures out there. You have superpowers. You're extra strong. It's very difficult to kill you. Everyone wants your blood. Yeah, it's just great. [00:50:22] Speaker B: Wow. [00:50:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:50:24] Speaker B: This is good news, I guess. [00:50:26] Speaker C: I think if you don't win the mug, I think you won by default. You're blade. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I already won. I'm a winner. [00:50:36] Speaker D: Wow. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Have I not known this? [00:50:39] Speaker D: I mean, it also means that you were really into this person, right? I feel like I know exactly what you mean when you're biting someone, there is this moment that you know you can bite more. The fact that if you're a human, you stop. But since you're a day walker, different rules apply to you and you just bite. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, I bite and I got carried away. [00:51:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Passionate. Passionate. That's great. Well, anonymous, thank you so much for this amazing story that you shared with us. [00:51:22] Speaker B: You're very welcome. And it was really great to know. [00:51:24] Speaker A: That at least I'm a rare creature. [00:51:27] Speaker D: Yeah, you are great. Amazing. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Wonderful. Well, thank you very much, dear love experts, blood experts, I must say. [00:51:36] Speaker D: Actually, you're very welcome. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Until soon. [00:51:40] Speaker D: Until very soon. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Bye bye. [00:51:45] Speaker C: Okay. Thank you so much. We already have two guests, two participants of this lottery that we're going to perform anonymously. Plus 3168-540-9178 that's our bloodline number. You can call. You can win a mug. The competition is high. I think we should do the lottery because these two contributions were great. [00:52:15] Speaker D: Well, we have another caller. Hello there. You have reached us on the bloodline. Are we talking. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Am I on the pod? [00:52:29] Speaker D: You are on the pod, honey. Would you like to tell. Yes, you are. Would you like to tell us your name or would you like to stay anonymous? [00:52:42] Speaker A: I would love to stay anonymous. You can call me lonely boy. [00:52:45] Speaker D: Okay, lonely boy, how is it going? [00:52:49] Speaker A: It's very good. I'm very excited. I'm a lonely boy. I'm a friend of the pod. Fan of the pod. [00:52:53] Speaker D: A fan of the pod. [00:52:54] Speaker B: We love all the time. [00:52:56] Speaker A: Huge fan and very excited to hear that you guys are giving us lots of advice because much needed. [00:53:06] Speaker D: It's tough out know. [00:53:09] Speaker A: It's really mean. Should I just ask my question? [00:53:16] Speaker D: Yeah, you can start wherever you want. Ask us a question or go ahead. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Is Andrea also there? I only hear I. I am. [00:53:26] Speaker C: Am. Do you hear me? [00:53:29] Speaker D: We are both here. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Hey, I'm a little starstruck. [00:53:35] Speaker D: Starstruck. Oh, honey, no need. We're here for you. [00:53:41] Speaker C: Anyway, we're all fans. [00:53:45] Speaker A: Only fans. [00:53:46] Speaker D: Only fans. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Well, my question is as follows. I had a rule with myself. I've been in a little bit of a winter dip, so to speak, right? And I thought, it's getting spring, things is going to happen. The clogs are turning the bees and the cows and the bees, and the pollen is in the air, and maybe we will have some flirtatious movements and moments going on that hasn't happened yet. Okay, so I actually had a rule with my friend Ethan that we said with Lila. We said, I mean, you don't know my name, but now you know Lila's name that we said, hi, lila, before May 1, we did not have sex. I don't know if can cut on this part sex. Then we have to sing I'm yours by Jason Moraz on the dumb with a little hat on the floor. [00:54:43] Speaker D: Oh, my God. [00:54:44] Speaker A: That did not work. We haven't done it yet. But I have to do it now because I did not have fex. [00:54:49] Speaker D: Okay. [00:54:50] Speaker A: She's been have a lot of trouble getting into the flirtatious mood and mindset. So I was wondering if you girls have any advice how to get in that mindset. [00:55:03] Speaker C: I have. Do you have also. [00:55:05] Speaker D: I might have something. Andrea, go ahead. [00:55:08] Speaker C: Blood bath. Blood bath. Blood bath has been proven by many firms to be like, the source of most erotic moments and arousal. So I think you should take a blood bath. I would not recommend any specific source of this blood. We do not approve violence at all. But I'm just saying that's a source. That's a source of arousal. That's an erotic source that you should maybe use. We will recommend some clips we will recommend some clips to you that you can watch to get inspired. So, yeah, a little bloodbath. I think it's the way to get into the mood. [00:55:58] Speaker A: It does sound either silent or extensive. [00:56:02] Speaker D: One of two, perhaps both. Yeah. Bloodbath. That's one idea. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:11] Speaker D: And the second one, I just need a little bit more context. So you and your friend are going to sing a song by Jason Moraz. [00:56:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm yours. [00:56:22] Speaker D: Okay. And this is happening on Dam square. [00:56:27] Speaker A: This is happening on damn square, my friend, actually, I mean, we both didn't make 1 May, but she had sex last week, so she leaves me alone in the gutter. [00:56:39] Speaker D: Okay. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Poor, very sad, depressed and lonely. And now I don't know what to do other than calling you, of course. [00:56:47] Speaker D: Yeah. So thank you for calling because what we can do now is everyone out there listening and re listening to this later on, on the yay and NNA website, this anonymous person, is there a date that you're going to sing? Jason Moraz? I'm just going to happen. [00:57:09] Speaker A: So people are going to bully me? [00:57:11] Speaker D: No, there's not going to be any bullying. This is a great moment to check out anonymous, get myself out there. And instead of the coins going in the little hat that's on the floor, how about you write down your number? [00:57:32] Speaker C: That's a good one. [00:57:33] Speaker D: And people leave their numbers. And then you can just decide which one you want to get in touch with. I think this performance is actually going to get you dating and having sex. [00:57:46] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. That's better than bloodbath. I take it back. [00:57:50] Speaker D: I think. No, you know what? We don't take anything back. I think a blood bath is still very interesting. The amount of blood. Questionable bath. Questionable. But perhaps just a drop. A little blood ritual. No problem. [00:58:06] Speaker A: Mix it with some water. [00:58:07] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:58:07] Speaker A: Hummel the seat. [00:58:08] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. And just do like. It's called a whores bath. And I love it. This way you just wash your genitals and your armpits. So maybe just do that. Exactly. So that's maybe a way to go. This singing of a Jason morale song should just happen. [00:58:30] Speaker A: I do think. I like the idea of going out in public, letting people know that I will be there so people can give me their numbers in a little hat. [00:58:40] Speaker D: Yes. [00:58:40] Speaker A: But I do wonder if it has to be me singing Jason Raz, I'm yours because I have had sex before sex before 1 may because that will probably be one of the lowest points of my life. So probably not the best moment to create this scenario for me. But maybe that is exactly the right moment. [00:59:05] Speaker D: I think it's the right moment. [00:59:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's the right moment. We have already talked a lot about savior feelings, like how saving someone is also hot in a way, super hot. People feel aroused about saving someone. So if you put yourself in a very bad position, you are likely to be saved by a man in a horse. [00:59:29] Speaker A: Wow. [00:59:30] Speaker D: Yes. [00:59:31] Speaker A: So I will look very helpless, very chaotic, very dramatically falling apart. Jason Mirek, I'm yours on them square. And then a prince and white horse with a savior complex will poop their number into a little hat, and that will develop into a date, and I will be happy forever. [00:59:54] Speaker C: I mean, you at least will have what you want. [00:59:57] Speaker D: Yeah, at least the sax. And then we'll talk about if that's going to be your eternal love story. [01:00:05] Speaker C: I do not think so. But your goals, I think this strategy is appropriate for your goals. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm also not looking for an eternal love story. I'm looking for sex. [01:00:23] Speaker D: We deserve that all. So we got to go and get it. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Good advice. I think I'm going to do both, but I'm not going to do a pure blood bath because, like I said, violent or extensive or both. [01:00:40] Speaker D: Yeah. We're not all Elizabeth Bassner, who has a bunch of virgins lining up to be slaughtered, unfortunately. [01:00:49] Speaker A: Who is that? [01:00:50] Speaker D: Oh, that's just a blood countess from a long Elizabeth who. It's a blood countess from a long time ago. Yeah. [01:01:03] Speaker A: I'm going to be more Elizabeth Holm. Like one drop blood like theranout five. [01:01:08] Speaker D: Right? [01:01:08] Speaker A: That sounds finger. And that's going to be my blood. [01:01:14] Speaker D: I like this. I like this. Yeah. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Should I do that before or after? Jason Red. I'm yours on the damn square. [01:01:20] Speaker D: I think it should happen half an hour before. So you still have an essence on you. [01:01:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'll be glowing. [01:01:29] Speaker D: Exactly. [01:01:30] Speaker A: But helpless. [01:01:31] Speaker D: Yes, glowing perfection. You'll be like Suki from true blood. [01:01:41] Speaker A: Cool. [01:01:41] Speaker D: Who was also helpless and then got saved by build of. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Should I paint on the little gap in my. [01:01:48] Speaker D: She got saved by multiple people, actually. Yeah. Be like Susan. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Should I do a little gap in the teeth? Like a little two teeth, black name. [01:01:56] Speaker D: Yeah, I think that could work. And she got a lot of ass. [01:02:03] Speaker A: She sure did. Explicit. Not suitable for work ass. Yeah. Well, that was great advice. [01:02:14] Speaker D: Okay, well, I'm happy that we were able to give you some advice. Please let us know about the date. If you want us to promote it, we're more than happy to do so. And we will definitely be present to help during your performance. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Setting up? Yeah, no, I definitely need a hand with the setup. Yeah, so that will be great. Yeah, absolutely great. I will not choose that yet because I don't have my planner in front of me now, but I can definitely get back to you guys. [01:02:51] Speaker D: Amazing. [01:02:52] Speaker C: Thank you so much. [01:02:53] Speaker D: Thank you so much, anonymous. [01:02:56] Speaker A: Thank you for your amazing advice. I hope you can provide lots more advice for people in need today for generous cause. [01:03:08] Speaker D: Well, let's see about that. Thanks, anonymous. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:03:15] Speaker D: Bye. [01:03:16] Speaker A: Have a great week. [01:03:17] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:03:18] Speaker B: Bye. [01:03:19] Speaker C: Okay, we really have to go, but before we leave, let's make the lottery. And then we leave with the name of the winner of this fantastic mug that Eli has designed that says, I call the bloodline for eternal love advice. And all I got was a mug, which is not accurate because these three people that call God, we were able to give them, we were able to. [01:03:45] Speaker D: Give advice one way or another. [01:03:47] Speaker C: Okay, so before we go one, we have Carmen, we have anonymous day walker, and we have anonymous lonely boy. [01:03:56] Speaker D: Yes. [01:03:56] Speaker C: I will click the starting situation of the lottery application that I randomly found on the Internet, and then we will get one winner. 54321. Anonymous lonely boy. [01:04:23] Speaker D: Oh, my God. [01:04:25] Speaker C: Congratulations. Please contact us via our channels. Yes, our Instagram channels. Contact the radio. You won this fantastic limited edition of the mug. [01:04:37] Speaker D: Yes, you did. [01:04:39] Speaker C: Thank you so much for listening. [01:04:40] Speaker D: Yeah, thank you so much for listening, everyone. It's funny that we, of course, did not manage to talk about all these complex triangle relationships in Buffy and in angel. And we haven't even gone into the queer relationships we just mentioned. The very heteronormative vibes. Except for Carmila. [01:05:02] Speaker C: But, yeah. Stay tuned. [01:05:04] Speaker D: We have more tuned. [01:05:05] Speaker C: We always have more. [01:05:06] Speaker D: We have so much more. [01:05:09] Speaker C: Goodbye. [01:05:10] Speaker D: Goodbye, everybody. Oh, my God. Thank you all for listening. Goodbye. Bye.